Neferets Master Plan?

Human Joined : 27 Jun 2008 Posts : 2

actually. i think that neferet did arrange the whole thing between loren and zoey. we all know about the scene zoey witnessed between the two of them. i do agree that he wasn't exactly complaining, but i also think that it was just another plot to rid zoey of her friends. as for the war between the humans and vamps, i don't think neferet is really planning on killing ALL humans, just the people of faith, for what they did. also i do think that she constructed the scene between eric and zoey. the book said so. she blamed zoey for loren's death because she said that he was looking for her because he could sense she was upset after the scene she constructed between her and eric.

Subject: Re: Neferets Master Plan? Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:14 pm

Two things;

One, I doubt we've seen the end of Erik, at least I hope not lol. There was too much of an emphasis on the initial conection between him and Zoey at the beginning of Marked for there not to be an underlying hint of sorts there.

Two, I dont think that we are going to find out a whole heck of alot about Neferet's master plan in untamed, at least not the entire thing, I understand that HoN is a six part series and that the next book is to be called hunted. Now rumors being what they are, who knows. but a six part series leaves too long for Neferets plan to be totally exposed just yet plus thats not the way the authors write....

Subject: Re: Neferets Master Plan? Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:33 pm

lol I cant say enough...as far as Loren and Zoey, in essence I think that Loren and Neferet had a plan all along to trick Zoey. However, in the book there is a part in the conversation with Loren and Neferet as Zoey looks on where Loren and Neferet are discussing the surprising speed of Zoey and Loren's imprint. That conversation makes me think that while there definetly was a plan, even neferet and Loren were surprised about an imprint forming. Now unless I am mistaken or misunderstanding an Imprint is a big deal and Neferet would never allow her man (Loren) to forman imprint with her sworn enemy (Zoey).

Also, Imprint or not I think that Loren was falling for Zoey, with her special powers and intricate and unusual tattoos it would be hard not to, especially for a poet!!

A war will come, I am confidant about it! Between who I dont know and in fact a war is already waging between neferet and Zoey, and its a war that could get messy by the sounds of things. I really think that Stevie Rae will become that much more important in the story as a weapon against neferet and eprhaps Aphrodite as well.

As far as the undead dead, as demonstrated in betrayed, Zoey can take them and now that shes on to Neferet, Neferet is going to have a hard job making more of these things, a task that I really think has to do with her "healing" affinity. I dont think it has to do with the white stuff she gives dieing fledglings, because Stevie Rea did not have any of it, that we know of so Im still a little fuzzy on that one.

And as for Neferet, I think her main underlying issue is control. She clearly never got over the abuse/neglect that she w suffered from her father and then when she became the high priestess she got a taste of power that gave her a feeling of control that she had been missing and as with all addicts, after youve got that first taste it takes more everytime to give you the same level of releif so to speak.

Petting Nala Age : 14 Joined : 30 Apr 2008 Posts : 1127

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Dreaming of Nyx Joined : 01 Jul 2008 Posts : 83

You know what is interesting in CHOSEN

Spoiler:
	Loren gets killed and Neffert says it is Zzoeys falt because he felt her sarrowness and thought she would be up their.

but it could not have been Zoeys fault because if they imprinted then he could have just searched for her like she did with heath.

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Dreaming of Nyx Joined : 01 Jul 2008 Posts : 83

and that is one more thing on why everything is happeneing to zoey (the bad stuff) is because of neffert.

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Dreaming of Nyx Joined : 01 Jul 2008 Posts : 83

Subject: Re: Neferets Master Plan? Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:37 am

Sorry bout the long post here guys but I read from page one to here and there were so many things that I had to post in reply to.

Well here goes:

I believe Neferet is trying to be a God.

She knows that she could never actually be Nyx as such but she wants to be like her I mean this is my logic:

Nyx gifts her Vampyres with special powers and Gives them a NEW LIFE.
Neferet revives these dead students and gives them a NEW LIFE also.

She can't give them powers as such but I'm sure that would've been one of the reasons she chose Stevie Rae as one of her minions because she saw the chance to give them a "High Priestess" of sorts someone that the rest of her followers could turn to for leadership etc.

Just like Nyx does with High Priestesses people look to their High Priestess for help and advice.

But then the next step in my theory is to what use Neferet wants to use these minions of hers for, I don't see that her past life would be a major factor in it, I mean yes it will be one reason for this but I'm sure there is a much more substancial reason for her turning against the ideals that Nyx has set for the Vampyres.

I don't her working with the People-of-Faith either as I'm sure she'd see them as below her and not even worth her time (she'd probably just send off some of her dead undead creatures to kill the leaders and slowly watch the Faith fall apart, that's what I'd do if I was her it's more fun to watch an enemy die a slow agonizing death than a quick and painful one)

I can see the war against the humans as a diversion for her actual plans, why not get everyone focussed over here while she can do what she wants over there and just make a small appearance every now and then.

Now the whole ERIK/NEFERET thing

Erik is stupid....I'm sorry to say it but yes he likes Zoey, I mean yeah he has told how much he likes her (he said he loved her, and for a guy even a vampyre it is one of the things you say only if you mean it or your a complete a**hole), I believe that he loves her (yes I think he still does) but I for one have said to all of my girlfriends that I've had if I ever caught them or found out something like that it'd be off and I wouldn't be coming back (if it doesn't work once it definately won't work the second).

Erik deffinately spoke to Neferet, Loren even admitted that she did while he was with Neferet in his loft.

But the whole Neferet got Erik to tell her friend about Z and Loren sleeping together that was just planned out she wanted Erik to tell them causing the group to seperate from her abit and then once the rest of the situation came out the tear in the group was substancial enough to cause Z to be slightly weakened. (I mean come on how could you juggle trying to apologize to 2 boyfriends, Heath and Erik, Her friends, Damian, the Twins and Jack, trying to help Stevie Rae and also stop Neferet.

Personally if I was Z I'd be focussing on my friends as I know that my powers would be boosted with my friends helping me with their affinities to the elements, if I ever decided to confront Neferet, alone I'm sure that Z and Neferet would be fairly evenly matched in a fight as Neferet has experience and age on her side where as Z has her powers (and the Godess I'm sure would be helping her).

Now the LOREN / ZOEY situation:

Loren was never truly in love or even considered that with Zoey it was all part of the Plan. I'd say whenever he pulled away from Zoey and looked like he was interested in her it wasn't that he was interested in her, I'd say he was more be amazed at the tattoos I mean they've said no other Vampyre in History has ever had affinity to all the elements this power I'm sure is mirrored in the amount of tattoos that a Vampyre has.
And when Loren pulled away I'd say he was contemplating whether going along with the plan with such a powerful person was worth it I mean yeah I'd be packin my pants becuase I'd know if Z ever found out I'd probably be either killed by her or the Godess would Curse me.

The finale

I'd say there will definately be a large scale battle but the sides will be mixed:

EVIL SIDE

U'd have Neferet leading one side with:
1. Her minion dead undead creatures,
2. Like minded Vampyres,
3. Humans who would rather serve than be killed by the new "Godess"

GOOD SIDE

U'd have Zoey leading the other side with:
1. Her friends obviously without them they wouldn't stand much of a chance,
2. The People-of-Faith (yes I know, ssshhhhh, I know not those crazy people, well Zoey is very mature I'm sure she understands that people have right to believe what they want and she'd convince them that she has no problem with them as long as they understand that their god is also understanding of this),
3. Like minded Vampyres,
4. Like minded Humans (these I'd say would more be on the other side but there would be a few, Heath for example).

Well these are the ideas in my head I know there is alot more but I don't think everyone would like to read more of this stuff till later.

Petting Nala Age : 14 Joined : 30 Apr 2008 Posts : 1127

Wow nice stuff, i agree with some of them
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Subject: Re: Neferets Master Plan? Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:45 pm

I think that Neferet is just trying to get even with humans. She wouldn't destroy them completely because
a) that isn't possible
b) if it weren't for humans there wouldn't be vampires
c) her undead creatured would all die from lack of human blood